Talk:Chastity device use ideas
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Key Safe Project
I have built a key safe as you described - if you want, I can add pictures and detail the steps and materials necessary to construct one, as well as provide some guidance on what to do (and not do), as well as some ideas I still have for improvements to my original build. Source for the safe is a US based company - Harbor Freight Tools - total cost to build was around $40 US. I also have a companion emergency key safe for the safe emergency key that I can share also if you wish. I'll check back here for comments for feedback. Thanks!
Nobody 02:57, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for the feedback. Yes, I've be very interested in info about what you've done. I think it would be more approriate on my main site with links to it from here. Could you mail me at mortice@mortice.org and we'll talk turkey..er..keysafes --Mortice 22:13, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Random.
I corrected the hotbits comment to point out it is based on a radioactive decay source. Note that this is fundamentally truely random (quotes not really required) unless our knowledge of physics is dramaticly wrong. (: Much better than atmospheric noise :)
- The comment you changed is about random.org which is based on atmospheric noise to I've corrected it back. And, just to be pedantic (it's a hobby) though stuff like radioactive decay and atmospheric noise are as random as nature will let us be, I think that 'truely' random is a mathematical abstract that's not something that's ever possible in any physical system, even though it's the same for all intents and purposes.
- I changed your hotbits link to random.org as I thought random.org is more 'accessable' (you can just click to see dice rolls or whatever) and also hotbits crashed my IE session (but that's probably just me, suspect due to the background click track). --Mortice 17:09, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Oops. Sorry, that was just carelessness on my part. I missed that the site had been changed. Bill1 00:01, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Device ideas
I've been playing with mockups of some ideas. I have a lot restrictions on what I can share (sorry, but that's my life) What I can share I've put on the page.
I really need diagrams for the painfull one. I'm not sure that I can get agreement to have any I have released without some copyright restrictions. But I'll see.
If people have questions, I am willing to discuss problems and details as I have found them.
Note that I come by here randomly and may sometimes take months to respond. Sorry.
Bill1 23:03, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks bill, intersting stuff. So much so that I thought it was worth moving onto a new page [Ideas for new chastity device designs] linked from the front page. Good to keep the ideas for devices separate from the ideas for device use. If you have a diagram that you're happy to publish and it's on the internet anywhere, you can show it on the page just by including the full url including http in square brackets. But I understand the desire for confidentiality.
- BTW you should receive an e-mail if someone updates your user or user talk page, so that will help if someone wants to comment on your work (if they know to edit your talk page) --Mortice 17:14, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Master vs Keyholder
Mortice, it seems to me that your definition of Keyholder is too narrow. I use the term to describe any person who holds the keys to another person's chastity device. The keyholder can be a Master, as you have described that term, or he (or she) can just carry out the wearer's prior instructions, or he can be the person who restrains and unlocks the wearer for inspection/cleaning/shaving (and then promptly re-locks him), or he can make arbitrary decisions about when and for how long the wearer is unlocked, or he can use the wearer for sexual purposes in exchange for his services as a keyholder (but not have any other control over the wearer), or... You are right, the terms and conditions need to be spelled out beforehand, but I think that imposing a Master/Keyholder dichotomy only adds to the confusion.PeterSJC 00:46, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Peter. You're quite right, a Master can be a keyholder too. I'm really using the term keyholder to mean only a keyholder, ie performing no other role. The reason for that section was primarily to address people who say they're looking for a keyholder, but when I quiz them on their needs they want more than just a keyholder. I will update to clarify --Mortice 19:54, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
The Chastity Device Use Ideas Article
First, I want to thank Mortice for this awesome site. As more people start participating and contributing their reviews, it will become the first place that someone who wants to buy a device will look.
I have a bit of a problem with the device use ideas article: As is made clear by the use of the word "I", the thoughts are Mortice's. I would be very hesitant to mess up the page with any of my own ideas, or even fix typos, etc., because that would only add to the confusion. The power of a wiki is that articles get better over time, reflecting the consensus of the community. In Wikipedia, for example, all articles are anonymous (unless you look at the history pages) and reflect a neutral point of view. Where opinions are expressed, they are of the form "Proponents of X say... Arguments against X include..." For each article there is a discussion page (this one, for example), where ideas are hashed out.
- You're quite right - this page first started as being a static page on my site, on which I included my comments as you've seen. I didn't change it, because you're the first person who's noticed! Have updated now - I hope the main page is now all 'neutral', and I hope you're more comfortable now with adding ideas and fixing typos without fearing you're stepping on toes. If there are any bits that are still inappropriate, fix or let me know. I'm not sure this is the sort of page that would have 'proponents of.. arguments against...' type stuff, but we can see how it goes.
- As for the last section about keyholder and master terms, I've moved the section to Comments from Mortice since it's my personal opinion and shouldn't be confused with anything else --Mortice 21:39, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
I think it might be useful have an article for each term (e.g., "Keyholder") that is used in other articles, with links from each article where the term is used. These "definition" articles would explain the entire range of usages, if applicable. PeterSJC 01:29, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- With the exception of the bit I've moved, I don't think there's a huge range of words that need defining (for standard terms they should be on wikipedia/wiktionary etc) but can add definitions if needed --Mortice 21:39, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
